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    Column "Recommended Version" in CSV does not match with UI

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    • OLLI_SO Offline
      OLLI_S Community Moderator
      last edited by OLLI_S

      CSV-Export

      In the CSV export I saw, that you Recommend Version 2.1.2.28 for Screenpresso:

      eb41ebcd-eb5e-4a72-abad-ec4537b6d661-image.png

      VulnDetect

      In the VulnDetect UI you have no recommended version:

      4521af93-d15e-4ac9-8181-20319dd9b477-image.png

      This seems to be a bug.

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      • OLLI_SO Offline
        OLLI_S Community Moderator @OLLI_S
        last edited by OLLI_S

        Same problem for Microsoft Teams Desktop Client.
        In the CSV the Recommended Version is 1.5.0.14473 (an older version).
        In the VulnDetect UI you have no recommended version.

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        • OLLI_SO Offline
          OLLI_S Community Moderator @OLLI_S
          last edited by

          Same problem for Razer Cortex.
          In the CSV the Recommended Version is 9.18.7.1508 (an older version).
          In the VulnDetect UI you have no recommended version.

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          • OLLI_SO Offline
            OLLI_S Community Moderator
            last edited by OLLI_S

            When the programmer of SUMo told me, that he will stop developing and close his company, I looked for an alternative application for SUMo.

            You might ask:

            Why the hell is this stupid guy doing that?
            He should use VulnDetect instead!

            But this is not as easy as it seems.

            I used SUMo to get informed about available updates, because:

            • SUMo was very often faster than VulnDetect
            • SUMo shows available updates more clearly

            When I use VulnDetect to get informed about available updates, then I would have to perform many steps manually:

            • Open VulnDetect
            • Perform a Scan
            • Select my host
            • Export the list of apps to XML
            • Import XML into Excel
            • Add Auto-Filters in the Column Headers
            • Open the Filter for the column "Recommended" and uncheck "empty" (to see only lines that contain a value
            • Manually compare each "recommended" version with the "installed" version

            Here the results of this comparison (where I show only lines that have a "recommended version" filled):

            2023-09-09_14h45_18.png


            For these applications an older version is recommended

            • Microsoft 365 Apps (Current Channel)
            • One Commander
            • ScreenPresso (2.x)
            • ScreenPresso (beta)

            Details about the version numbers see screen shot above.
            Note, that in the VulnDetect UI there is no new version recommended for these apps!
            Only in the CSV-Update!


            At these applications there are other issues

            • ColorCop is uninteresting it should be bundled with Screenshot Captor
              The topic Bundle "ColorCop" with "Screenshot Captor" was created on 31 Oct 2021.
              That was 3 years ago and nothing happened here.

            • FreeCommander XE donor is wrongly detected, it is FreeCommander XE Public.
              The Public version is up-to-date, so also this entry is wrong.
              I created the topic FreeCommander XE - Donors vs. Public today for this issune.


            These Recommended Versions are OK

            • Microsoft Edge WebView2 Runtime
            • Recuva
            • Rufus
            • Valve Steam Client

            Summary

            Only 4 out of 10 recommended versions are correct.
            And to get this information, this requires many manual steps.
            This is very frustrating.

            I work as an Usability Engineer and UX-Expert.
            That users do not get the information "here an update is available" without having to perform multiple manual actions is really a mess!

            In the past I suggested to improve the UI of VulnDetect and to show available updates with a corresponding label:

            • New Status "Outdated" (for non-security updates) - voted by 3 other users
            • Additional Status for Update Available - voted by 2 other users
            • List of Applications - Improved UI - voted by 3 other users (one user in the second repy)

            Please @Tom, talk with your team about these suggestions, they increases the UX a lot!

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            • OLLI_SO Offline
              OLLI_S Community Moderator @OLLI_S
              last edited by OLLI_S

              @OLLI_S said in My Frustration with VulnDetect:

              (where I show only lines that have a "recommended version" filled

              This information was only partial correct.

              • I filter out all lines, where the recommended version is not empty (here I get many results)
              • Then I compare the column "Version" and "Recommended" and when they are different, I write in a new column the text "Differs"
              • Then I filter the table to show me only the lines with "Differs" (here I get 10 results)

              After the daily scan today I have a new match, where and old version is recommended: Todoist

              • Instralled: 8.6.1.0
              • Recommended: 8.6.0
                And again: in the UI there is no recommended version shown.

              Work-Around

              Please export the Recommended version only, when you also show it in the UI
              This would show in the example above only 6 apps instead of 10.

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              • OLLI_SO Offline
                OLLI_S Community Moderator @OLLI_S
                last edited by

                @Tom I reported this issue in July 2022 and it is still not fixed.
                It would make my life (and the life of many other users as well) easier, if you export the "Recommended Version" only, if there is a Recommended Version in the UI.

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                • OLLI_SO Offline
                  OLLI_S Community Moderator @OLLI_S
                  last edited by

                  In the CSV-Export today there are again some issues:

                  Firetrust HideAway

                  Application: Firetrust HideAway
                  Intalled:    4.20.4
                  Recommended: 4.20.2
                  Issues:      In the CSV you recommend and OLD version, in the UI you have no recommended version
                  

                  Microsoft 365 Apps (Current Channel)

                  Application: Microsoft 365 Apps (Current Channel)
                  Intalled:    16.0.17029.20028
                  Recommended: 2311 Build 17029.20068
                  Issue:       Both versions have a different format, in the UI you have no recommended version
                  

                  @Tom
                  Please export the Recommended version only, when you also show it in the UI

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                  • OLLI_SO Offline
                    OLLI_S Community Moderator @OLLI_S
                    last edited by

                    @Tom
                    In the CSV-Export the recommended version is still older for some apps:

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